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May 25, '11, 10:28 am
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Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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At today's weekly general audience the Holy Father received a new tiara made for him and presented by Catholic and Orthodox Christians.
The tiara was commissioned by Dieter Philippi (http://www.dieter-philippi.de/), a German Catholic businessman who has a great devotion to the papacy as well as to the call to Christian unity.
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
quite a tiara 
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May 25, '11, 10:57 am
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
Wow! How beautiful!
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
Very nice
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
I like it.
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
Very nice! I would he would wear at least once! I know the last pope to have one was Paul VI correct?
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May 25, '11, 12:16 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
The old Papal Tiara is still at the Vatican. The last Pope to actually wear it was John XXIII. Paul VI refused to wear it during his Papacy.
The Pope is not a temporal ruler any longer, he is no longer considered a King or an Emperor. There is absolutely no reason why any Pope should be wearing any kind of a crown.
I sincerely pray that this horrible use of treasure is sold off and used to provide for the poor.
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May 25, '11, 12:20 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
I think you're wrong on several fronts.
Paul VI did wear it - I believe he discontinued wearing it at some point in his papacy.
The pope is a temporal ruler - sovereign of the Vatican City State. I believe he is a monarch.
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May 25, '11, 12:21 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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The Pope is not a temporal ruler any longer, he is no longer considered a King or an Emperor.
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The Pope is a temporal ruler as well as a spiritual shepherd.
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There is absolutely no reason why any Pope should be wearing any kind of a crown.
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The Pope should wear the papal tiara to demonstrate that even secular government is subject to the Catholic Faith.
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May 25, '11, 12:38 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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The old Papal Tiara is still at the Vatican. The last Pope to actually wear it was John XXIII. Paul VI refused to wear it during his Papacy.
The Pope is not a temporal ruler any longer, he is no longer considered a King or an Emperor. There is absolutely no reason why any Pope should be wearing any kind of a crown.
I sincerely pray that this horrible use of treasure is sold off and used to provide for the poor.
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Why don't you also sell your computer so you may provide for the poor? You should give everything for the poor
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May 25, '11, 12:42 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
Sorry, but my computer is not made of gold.
The time is LONG past when the church should be accepting temporal items like this. This tiarra is NOT religious, it is a crown to signify that the pope is a Ruler. Let's not go back to the middle ages, when the Pope was a ruler of vast lands, led armies into wars, etc.
That's exactly what this kind of a crown signifies.
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May 25, '11, 12:43 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
 
Pope Paul VI
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May 25, '11, 12:43 pm
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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[. . .] it is a crown to signify that the pope is a Ruler.
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Exactly because the Pope is a temporal ruler. To deny him his temporal authority is an error.
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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Sorry, but my computer is not made of gold.
The time is LONG past when the church should be accepting temporal items like this. This tiarra is NOT religious, it is a crown to signify that the pope is a Ruler. Let's not go back to the middle ages, when the Pope was a ruler of vast lands, led armies into wars, etc.
That's exactly what this kind of a crown signifies.
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Made of gold or not by the standard you have set any thing beyound what is needs to meet the basics of life ( food, cloths, shelter) should be sold and used to care for the Poor.
Be is vast lands or or not the Pope is a ruler. He is the steward for the King and the King rules all religious or not.
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Re: Pope receives tiara from Catholic and Orthodox Christians
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The old Papal Tiara is still at the Vatican. The last Pope to actually wear it was John XXIII. Paul VI refused to wear it during his Papacy.
The Pope is not a temporal ruler any longer, he is no longer considered a King or an Emperor. There is absolutely no reason why any Pope should be wearing any kind of a crown.
I sincerely pray that this horrible use of treasure is sold off and used to provide for the poor.
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Claptrap. The Pope is a monarch, he is the head of Vatican state. He is the RULER of Vatican state. And, he's successor of St Peter, he's the shepherd of God's flock! Why SHOULDN'T he wear this beautiful tiara that has been gifted to him by Catholics and Orthodox. Gosh, that crown is simply beautiful! Hopefully he WILL wear it!
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